[publictransport] Herald Sun: Angry cyclists win train backflip

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Hi Bethaney ,
It could be a costly exercise but  may not be too high.

  It mostly depends on the capacity of the cages.
  Where they put the cages and what construction work is needed to  
install them
  (concrete plinths and drains) swipe card locks and surveillance  
systems.

$1 million would buy 20 Cages (plus plinths etc,) that each store 20  
bikes.  This  would provide
for 400 bikes or $2500 per bike. However is the average bike cage  
only provides for ten bicycles  tjye
  will cost around $5,000 each.

It costs around $1,000 for a bike locker for one bike plus extra for  
concrete plinth. Lighting and surveillance
equipment would also be needed for groups of 20 more bike lockers.

It costs around $10,000 for a car parking space because they take up  
so much space also access roads
and drains being required.

As 40 % approximately of station car parks are taken up by able  
bodied commuters who drive less than
2 km to a station it would make sense to provide a lot more free  
lockers and encourage short distance
Car/train commuters to use them. Connex and before them the MET have  
wasted $millions on car parks
for thousands of car commuters some of whom come from less than 1 km  
away.

  Connex and DOI could not organise a pee up in public urinal that is  
the real prpblem.
Unlike Brisbane railways they do not employ an engineer with specific  
responsible responsibility
for design and development of secure bicycle facitlities.

Bye Alan

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On 15/02/2008, at 12:49 PM, Bethany Keats wrote:

> $1million seems a hell of a lot for only 20 cages! Or is it just me  
> who thinks that?
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Brianna Laugher  
> <brianna.laugher at gmail.com> wrote:
> <http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23218167-29277,00.html>
>
> Angry cyclists win train backflip
>
> February 15, 2008 11:56am
> Article from: AAP
>
> THE Victorian Government will spend $1 million on 20 new bicycle cages
> at railway stations as it moves to placate cyclists over its bungled
> ban on bikes on public transport.
>
> Public Transport Minister Lynne Kosky today reversed the ban in an
> embarrassing backflip, following uproar from cyclists.
>
> The bike ban was introduced on peak hour trains six weeks ago, but Ms
> Kosky later ordered a review when she learned her department had not
> adequately consulted on the changes.
>
> Under the new arrangements, bikes will be allowed on all metropolitan
> and regional V/Line train services.
>
> But they will be restricted to the last carriage while Connex works
> towards possibly modifying carriages to make them more cyclist
> friendly.
>
> In a further win for cyclists, fold-up bikes will be allowed on all
> Melbourne trains, trams and buses from April 1.
>
> The Government will also invest $1 million on 20 new bicycle cages at
> railway stations to reduce congestion on trains.
>
> "Hindsight's always a wonderful thing and I think as a politician we
> need to be able to use hindsight to say maybe we didn't get it quite
> right and there's a way of moving forward," Ms Kosky said.
>
> "I've been able to work with all of the cycling groups. I think what
> we have in place now is better than what we had prior to the ban being
> announced - much better."
>
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