[publictransport] BtBB update 28/3

Wed Apr 2 00:25:35 EST 2008

Hi all,

Meeting, coffee, bicycle appreciation, follow up, whatever: I'll be 
around at the CERES cafe this Saturday (5 April) 1pm.

In regards to Julia's comments, has anyone *actually* seen any signage 
or changes denoting what was mentioned in the MetLink Feb news or was 
discussed in the meeting with Kosky?

Having bicycles allowed on trains again at peak times is only one part 
of what was promised, what Kosky was suggesting was a more integrated 
approach to mix mode transport options.

What was suggested from Kosky may indeed be baby steps, but it was a 
crucial decision in ensuring bicycles are part of sustainable transport 
solutions in Victoria.

As many of us realise, the longterm approach to bicycle use and public 
transport has always been nebulous, and that fact in no small point is 
what helped create the issue we fought against earlier this year.

In short, further communication is required with the DoI Public 
Transport Division to clarify what is actually occuring and timelines. 
Unless someone can alert us to the existance of a media release or rule 
changes.

Cynically I think the government maybe a tad preoccupied with Myki ...

cheers,

Chris

Julia Blunden wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Sorry I can't make the meeting next Saturday but I'll be interested to hear
> what comes out of it. I haven't seen any signs anywhere to indicate where
> bikes should go on Connex trains yet. And signs at stations saying they are
> not allowed on peak hour trains have taken a while to disappear. 
>
> I just checked the Connex web site and it's not all that easy to find out
> what the current rules are - in fact the two leads I followed up seemed to
> contradict each other. Under 'FAQs' they say that bikes can be carried at
> all times and should go in the back of the train, but under 'Customer
> Charter' they still say that passengers are requested not to bring bikes
> during peak times. You have to do a lot of scrolling to find the relevant
> sections.
>
> Julia
>
> Address: 29 Elgin Street, Hawthorn, Vic 3122
> Phone/Fax: 9853 5095
> Email: jblunden at bigpond.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: publictransport-bounces at yarrabug.org
> [mailto:publictransport-bounces at yarrabug.org] On Behalf Of cfsmtb
> Sent: Friday, 28 March 2008 9:56 AM
> To: Public transport access for all users
> Subject: [publictransport] BtBB update 28/3
>
> Hi all,
>
> A couple of items to discuss, this is lengthy, so bear with me!
>
> - Follow up from the ban being lifting
> - Implementation of Folding Bikes on PT
> - Articles in the media about bicycles & bikes
> - Request from BV's Ride On magazine for information about bike cages.
>
>
> 1. Follow up from the ban being lifting
> First up, follow up from the bans being lifted in February. As 
> mentioned, somewhat casually a while ago on this list, I was suggesting 
> a catchup and/or debrief regarding the BtBB campaign. As now Easter has 
> passed, how about a catch up either in person or online? I suggest next 
> Saturday 5/4 at CERES, 1pm at the cafe. It would be good to hear how 
> people are free to take their bicycles on peak-hour services and any 
> challenges or feedback they have or may of received from either the 
> public or Connex/VLine staff.
>
> In regards to Niks feedback about dogs being banned on VLine - is this a 
> ban on ALL dogs at ALL times or is there allowances for Guide Dogs and 
> any provision for other situations?
>
>
> 2. Implementation of Folding Bikes on PT
> Returning to the Feb announcement from MetLink:
> http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/news/media_releases/metropolitan_general/
> bikes_back_on_peak_hour_trains_and_further_improvements_announced
>
> We need to monitor how these changes are implemented, as mentioned in 
> the MetLink announcement:
>
> Quote: Other changes will be made to improve public transport access for 
> passengers with bikes. These include:
>
>     * Signage and markings to outline bike parking and storage
>       facilities, bike paths near railway stations and where passengers
>       with bikes should travel on public transport.
>     * A campaign to promote bike storage facilities and information on
>       how to travel safely and courteously with a bike on public transport.
>     * Standards for carrying folding bikes on all modes of public
>       transport. The Department of Infrastructure will work with public
>       transport operators and bicycle groups to develop standards for
>       carrying folding bikes on all modes, including metropolitan trams
>       and metropolitan and regional buses. It is expected that with a
>       successful consultation, folding bikes could be taken on buses and
>       trams from 1 April 2008.
>
> Existing Guidelines:
> http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/fares_tickets/faqs#faq1211
>
> In short, has anyone seen, read or heard of these changes that are 
> supposed to be implemented on April1?
>
>
> 3. Articles in the media about bicycles & bikes
> Thought these articles relating to bicycles and train use would interest 
> you. Yes there's even a footy reference! ABC's Stateline on Friday also 
> had a story about a young womans return to work via a program at Toll 
> Holdings, it also included her commute by bicycle and train to work. The 
> transcript isn't up yet, but check this link later:
> http://www.abc.net.au/stateline/vic/default.htm
>
> Wakelin's two-hour ticket
> http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23411858-19742,00.h
> tml
>
> US: Bikes on Trains? ConnDOT and Commuter Council Say No
> http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2008/03/bikes_on_trains.php
>
>
> 4. Request from BV's Ride for information about bike cages.
> Received this request via the BoroondaraBUG list, if you have experience 
> or a opinion about bike cages/storage at train stations, please get in 
> contact with Jess from BV's Ride On magazine, see details below:
>
> --- In BoroondaraBugDiscussion at yahoogroups.com, "Graeme Stone"
> <graeme_stone at ...> wrote:
>
> Would anyone have an experience or a point of view re bike storage at
> train stations to pass on to Jess?
>
> Thanks,
> Graeme
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jess at goodear.id.au [mailto:jess at goodear.id.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2008 4:32
> To: graeme_stone at ...
> Subject: Boroondara BUG enquiry
>
>
> Enquiry from Bicycle Victoria - Find website
> Sender: Jess Goodear
>
> --
> Hi Graeme,  I found the 'Boroondara BUG' listing on the Bicycle Victoria
> website and I would like to request some more information.  I'm from BV's
> Ride On magazine and I'm writing an article about the govt's plan to
> introduce bike cages @ train stations. I wanted to interview yourself or a
> member who is a commuter who rides to work, would benefit from bike
> cages at
> stations or would have anything to say about the benefits. Maybe even
> someone who has had a bike stolen from a station in the past?  Please
> reply
> email to jess at goodear.id.au or (preferably) call me on 0419 617 267  Thanks
> for your help!
>
>
>
>
> --- End forwarded message ---
>
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